This is what I believe the Third Secret of Fatima is
Many will enter the clergy to destroy the Catholic Church from within. There will be an evil council (Vatican II) that will cause great scandal and spread heresies. The Holy Spirit would have little to do with it (the council) as the Council will mostly be a work of HelI. Work of the devil will infiltrate even into Church to destroy Catholic faith from within. One third of clergy will be the darkness of Satan and Satan will obtain high positions among hierarchy and will determine direction of things. There will be an internal struggle in the bosom of the church and Satan will worm way to summit. Anti-Christ (freemasonry) will overthrow Pope and usurp his see during Pontificate of Pope Paul VI in 1972. Anti-Christ will replace real Pope with with a false Pope who will be under Anti-Christs control. Satan (Anti-Christ) will thus come to rule a false church, resulting in Rome losing the Faith and becoming the seat of Anti-Christ. This will bring about an apostasy from the top which will filter down. Pope will be surrounded by enemies. Real Pope will become a prisoner in the Vatican and will suffer much. Pope will offer his sufferings to God for sake of real Catholic Church and be a martyr.
Tail of devil (Anti-Christ) will function in the disintegration of the Catholic world. In Rome there will be great changes. Catholic faith will be destroyed by false doctrines. Liturgy of Latin Mass must not be changed but will be. Churches and altars will be sacked. Grave pastoral negligence and compromises of clergy and hierarchy will lead to diabolical disorientation of catholic world and disagreements among hierarchy and clergy. It will be Bishop vs Bishop and Cardinal vs Cardinal. There will be a crisis of faith and a loss of Dogma. Apostasy and loss of faith will spread throughout the world. Many clergy and hierarchy will drag many souls to Hell with them.
PLEASE NOTE: updated on Sunday 15/Sept/2019
I will update and alter from time to time what I believe the Third Secret is and will base it on careful research.
prophecy of saint nilus
St Nilus was a 5th Century Russian hermit.
After the year 1900, towards the middle of the 20th Century, the people of that time will become unrecognisable. When the time for the advent of the Antichrist approaches, peoples minds will grow cloudy from carnal passions, and dishonour and lawlessness will grow stronger. Then the world will become unrecognisable. Peoples appearances will change, and it will be impossible to distinguish men from women due to their shamelessness in dress and style of hair. These people will be cruel and will be like wild animals because of the temptations of the Antichrist. There will be no respect for parents and elders, love will disappear, and Christian pastors, Bishops and Priests will become vain men, completely failing to distinguish the right hand away from the left. At that time the morals and traditions of Christians and of the church will change. People will abandon modesty, and dissipation will reign. Falsehood and greed will attain great proportions, and woe to those who pile up treasures. Lust, adultery, homosexuality, secret deeds and murder will rule in society.
At that future time, due to the power of such great crimes and licentiousness, people will be deprived of the grace of the Holy Spirit, which they received in Baptism and equally of remorse.
The Churches of God will be deprived of God-fearing and pious pastors, and woe to the Christians remaining in the world at that time; they will completely lose their faith because they will lack the opportunity of seeing the light of knowledge from anyone at all. Then they will separate themselves out of the world in holy refuges in search of lightening their spiritual sufferings, but everywhere they will meet obstacles and constraints. And all this will result from the fact that the Antichrist wants to be Lord over everything and become the ruler of the whole universe, and he will produce miracles and fantastic signs. He will also give depraved wisdom to an unhappy man so that he will discover a way by which one man can carry on a conversation with another from one end of the Earth to the other. At that time men will also fly through the air like birds and descend to the bottom of the sea like fish. And when they have achieved all this, these unhappy people will spend their lives in comfort without knowing, poor souls that it is deceit of the Antichrist. And, the impious!-- he will so complete science with vanity that it will go off the right path and lead people to lose faith in the existence of God in three hypostases.
Then the All-good God will see the downfall of the human race and will shorten the days for the sake of those few who are being saved, because the enemy wants to lead even the chosen into temptation, if that is possible . . . then the sword of chastisement will suddenly appear and kill the perverterer and his servants.
Please Note: When St Nilus speaks of Christians and pastors he means Catholic Christians and Catholic pastors (Priests). This is because there were no Protestants in the 5th century.
THIRD SECRET MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE
According to Sr Lucia of Fatima it is in the Apocalypse.
When Lucia was asked about the Third Secret she said it was "in the Gospel and in the Apocalypse" and at one point she had even specified Apocalypse chapters 8 to 13, a range that includes Apocalypse 12:4, the chapter and verse cited by Pope John Paul II in his homily on 13 May 2000.
THIRD SECRET WAS TO BE REVEALED BY 1960
Our Lady of Fatima said, "If My requests are heeded, many souls will be saved and there will be peace." Among Her requests was that the Third Secret of Fatima be revealed to the world no later than 1960. In the words of Brother Michael of the Holy Trinity (Little Brothers of the Sacred Heart), even if we know what the themes of this Secret are, "nothing is so important, so necessary, so urgent as to make known the text in its limpid truth, in its full prophetic richness, in its divine profundity and transcendence. For between everything we could say about it, and the very words of the Queen of Prophets, there is of course an abyss!!"
In 1946, Sister Lucy was asked when the Third Secret would be revealed to the world, and without hesitation she said, "In 1960." In 1955 Cardinal Ottaviani asked her why it was not to be opened before 1960. She told him, "because then it will seem clearer (mais claro)." Sister Lucy had made the Bishop of Fatima-Leiria promise that the Secret would be read to the world at her death, but in no event later than 1960, "because the blessed Virgin wishes it so." And from Canon Barthas: "Moreover, it [the Third Secret] will soon be known, since Sister Lucy affirms that Our Lady wills that it can be published beginning in 1960."
Many reliable witnesses allow us to establish the fact with certitude, that the Third Secret was to be revealed to the world no later than 1960, by express wish of Our Lady of Fatima:
- Cardinal Cerejeira: “From the two parts of the Secret already revealed, the third part has not been made known, but it has been written and placed in a sealed envelope and will be opened in 1960, we know enough to enable us to conclude that the salvation of the world, in this extraordinary movement of history, has been placed by God in the Immaculate Heart of Mary.” (Cardinal Cerejeira, September 7, 1946, at the closing of the Marian Congress of Campinas, Brazil)
- Canon Galamba: “When the bishop refused to open the letter, Lucy made him promise that it would definitely be opened and read to the world either at her death or in 1960, whichever would come first.” (La Verdad sobre el Secreto de Fatima, Fr. Joaquin Alonso, Spanish Edition, pp. 46-47)
- Fr. Jongen: Fr. Jongen interrogated Sister Lucy on February 3-4, 1946: “You have already made known two parts of the Secret. When will the time arrive for the third part?” “I communicated the third part in a letter to the Bishop of Leiria,” she answered. “But it cannot be made known before 1960.” (Review Mediatrice et Reine, October 1946, pp. 110-112)
- John Haffert: “At the bishop’s house (in Leiria), I sat at the table on his right, with the four Canons. During that first dinner, Canon Jose Galamba de Oliveira turned to me when the bishop had left the room momentarily and asked: “Why don’t you ask the bishop to open the Secret?” Endeavoring not to show my ignorance concerning Fatima—which at that time was almost complete—I simply looked at him without expression. He continued: "The bishop can open the Secret. He doesn’t have to wait until 1960.” (Dear Bishop! John Haffert, AMI 1981, pp. 3-4)
- Cardinal Cerejeira: In February 1960 the Patriarch of Lisbon reported the directions which the Bishop of Leiria “has passed on to him” on the subject of the Third Secret: “Bishop da Silva enclosed (the envelope sealed by Lucy) in another envelope on which he indicated that the letter had to be opened in 1960 by himself, Bishop Jose Correia da Silva, if he was still alive, or if not, by the Cardinal Patriarch of Lisbon.” (Novidades, February 24, 1960, quoted by La Documentation catholique, June 19, 1960, col. 751)
- Canon Barthas: during his conversations with Sister Lucy on October 17-18, 1946, he had the opportunity to question her on the Third Secret. He writes: “When will the third element of the Secret be revealed to us?” Already in 1946, to this question Lucy and the Bishop of Leiria answered me uniformly, without hesitation and without comment: “In 1960.” And when I pushed my audacity so far as to ask why it was necessary to wait until then, the only response I received from either one was: “Because the Blessed Virgin wishes it so.” (Barthas, Fatima, merveille du XXe siecle, p. 83. Fatima-editions, 1952)
- Canon Galamba: “The third part of the Secret, written down by Sister Lucy, was sealed by the hands of His Grace the Bishop of Leiria and will be opened either after the seer’s death or at the latest in 1960 (ou apos a morte da vidente ou o mais tardar em 1960).” (Fatima, altar do mundo, Vol. II, p. 147)
- The Armstrongs: On May 14, 1953, Lucy received a visit from the Armstrongs, who were able to question her on the third Secret. In their account published in 1955, they confirmed that the third Secret “had to be opened and divulged in 1960.” (A. O. Armstrong, Fatima, pilgrimage to peace, The World’s Work, Kingswood, Surrey, 1955)
- Cardinal Ottaviani: On May 17, 1955, Cardinal Ottaviani, Pro-Prefect of the Holy Office, came to the Carmel of Saint Teresa at Coimbra. He interrogated Lucy on the third Secret; and in his conference of 1967 recalled: “The message was not to be opened before 1960. I asked Sister Lucy, ‘Why this date?’ She answered, ‘Because then it will seem clearer (mais claro).” (La Documentation catholique, March 19, 1967, col. 542)
- Cardinal Tisserant: On October 13, 1956, Cardinal Tisserant, Secretary of the Sacred Congregation for the Eastern Church, came as a papal legate to bless “Domus Pacis” at Fatima, the international headquarters of the Blue Army. During his homily he declared: “A part of this message must remain hidden until 1960; but a part has been made public in 1942 by the ecclesiastical authorities…” (quoted by G. Renault, Fatima, p. 225, Plon, 1957)
- Father Schweigl: In November 1956, Father Schweigl titled a chapter of his little work, “Towards the Year 1960…” and he writes, “… The third part of the message must remain secret until 1960.” (Fatima e la conversione della Russia, p. 13, Rome, 1956)
- Father Joaquin Alonso, official archivist of Fatima: “Other bishops also spoke—and with authority—about the year 1960 as the date indicated for opening the famous letter. Thus, when the then titular Bishop of Tiava, and Auxiliary Bishop of Lisbon asked Lucy when the Secret was to be opened, he always received the same answer: in 1960.” (La Verdad sobre el Secreto de Fatima, Fr. Joaquin Alonso, Spanish Edition, p. 46)
- Father Joaquin Alonso: “When Don Jose, the first Bishop of Leiria and Sister Lucy agreed that the letter was to be opened in 1960, they obviously meant that its contents should be made public for the good of the Church and the world.” (ibid., p. 54)
- Bishop Venancio: “I think that the letter will not be opened before 1960. Sister Lucy had asked that it should not be opened before her death, or not before 1960. We are now in 1959 and Sister Lucy is in good health.” (La Verdad sobre el Secreto de Fatima, Fr. Joaquin Alonso, Spanish Edition, p. 46)
- Father Fuentes: Father Fuentes interviewed Sister Lucy on December 26, 1957 and told him: “Father, the Most Holy Virgin is very sad because no one has paid attention to Her Message, neither the good nor the bad. The good continue on their way but without giving any importance to Her Message… I am still not able to give any other details because it is still a secret. According to the will of the Most Holy Virgin, only the Holy Father and the Bishop of Fatima are permitted to know the Secret, but they have chosen not to know it so that they would not be influenced. This is the third part [third Secret] of the Message of Our Lady which will remain secret until 1960.” (La Verdad sobre el Secreto de Fatima, Fr. Joaquin Alonso, Spanish Edition, p. 103-104)
- F. Stein: “The testimonies which have announced the revelation of the Secret for 1960 are of such weight and so numerous that in our opinion, even if the ecclesiastical authorities of Fatima [in 1959 the experts themselves were still unaware that Rome had taken the Secret from the Bishop of Leiria over two years previously] had not yet resolved to publish the Secret in 1960, they would now see themselves forced to do so by the circumstances.” (Mensagem de Fatima, July-August, 1959)
- Father Dias Coelho: “If it were only a question of much ado about nothing, this would already be sufficient reason for dealing with the matter, at least with the purpose of quashing these rumors. But in reality testimony on the existence of the third part of the Secret of Fatima (the first and second part having been published already in 1942 is so weighty, coming from persons like Don Jose, Bishop of Leiria, his successor, Don Venancio, Cardinal Cerejeira, and Cardinal Tisserant, that it leaves no doubt. Also, we can use, as an unquestionable fact, this assertion of Dr. Galamba de Oliveira (in 1953) in Fatima, Altar do Mundo: ‘The third part of the Secret was sealed in the hands of His Grace the Bishop of Leiria, and will be opened either after the seer’s death or at the latest in 1960.’” (L’Homme Nouveau, No. 269, November 22, 1959)
- Canon Barthas: "We know that there remains an element still reserved, of which it is useless to guess the content. Moreover, it will soon be known, since Lucy affirms that Our Lady wills that it can be published beginning in 1960." (The Whole Truth About Fatima, Vol. III, Brother Michael of the Holy Trinity, p. 500, footnote 33)
- Father Joaquin Alonso, noting the effects of the disobedience of the hierarchy not to disclose the third Secret in 1960, as indicated by Our Lady of Fatima: “Simple folks waited up until May 13  when it was believed that the revelation [of the third Secret] would be made. Later, people felt a profound disenchantment and disappointment which did great harm to devotion to Our Lady of Fatima, both inside and outside Portugal.” (La Verdad sobre el Secreto de Fatima, Fr. Joaquin Alonso, Spanish Edition, p. 46)
All testimonies and statements reveal clearly and with certitude, that Heaven (not Sister Lucy!) but Heaven, desired and willed that Our Lady’s third Secret of Fatima was to be revealed to the whole world no later than 1960.
Sister Lucy writes the Third Secret
In 1941 Sister Lucy had written her third and fourth memoirs, writing the first two parts of the great Secret of Fatima. In her third memoir Sister Lucy has made it clear that "the secret is made up of three parts, two of which I am going to reveal." In her fourth memoir she restated the first two parts, leaving out once again "that part of the Secret which I am not permitted to reveal at present." Yet in the fourth memoir Sister Lucy did reveal one additional fragment of the Secret which had not appeared in the third memoir: Before the "O my Jesus", and after the end of the second part of the Secret, we find this curious sentence, obviously deprived of its context: "Em Portugal se conservera sempre o doguema da fe." - "In Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved." It is interesting to note that the first two parts of the Secret do not mention the subject of the loss of dogma at all.
In September of 1944, Bishop da Silva suggested that Sister Lucy write down the text of the Third Secret, but she said that she could not take that responsibility upon herself without a formal, written order. Even when the order was given a month later by her bishop, she was unable to commit to writing the Third Secret. Sister Lucy, who had lived a life of obedience to her superiors, was not physically able to obey the command. She attributed this paralysis to a preternatural cause. According to Frere Michel in his monumental book on the Third Secret:
"Having received the formal order to write down the Secret in mid-October, two months later Sister Lucy still had not done so. This shows how much the writing of this text made her tremble. Indeed as she took up her pen, she found her incapable of writing. In effect, as she asked Don Garcia for advice she added that she had wanted to obey several times, that she had sat down to write, without being able to. This mysterious impediment still existed on December 24, 1943, where she makes it clear in a letter to Don Garcia 'that this phenomenon was not due to natural causes.'
"...Undoubtedly we see it as Satan's final outburst against the messenger of the Immaculate One, guessing what a great weapon this prophecy would be, once it was set down in black and white, against his domination and his claim of being able to infiltrate the very heart of the Church...thus the seer's great trial was the measure of how great was the event about to be accomplished." 
Finally, on January 2, 1944, Sister Lucy was able to write down the text of the Secret in the chapel at the convent of Tuy. According to the account of Canon Martins dos Reis, she was able to proceed only "after Our Lady appeared to her to tell her to write the famous secret ... in conformity with what had been asked of her."
On January 9, 1944, Sister Lucy wrote to Bishop da Silva to tell him that the Third Secret of Fatima had been written down and placed in a sealed envelope. On June 17, 1944, the envelope was delivered to Bishop da Silva, by Sister Lucy's bishop confessor in Tuy. The five month delay had resulted from Sister Lucy's unwillingness to entrust the envelope to anyone but a bishop. Bishop da Silva made the famous promise to Sister Lucy that the envelope would be unsealed and the Secret revealed not later than 1960.
Our Lady, Queen of the angels and saints, and our spiritual Mother, has our eternal salvation at heart more than anyone we will ever know. Let us pray that the real Third Secret will soon be revealed, for the glory of God and the salvation of souls!
Ven. Anne de la Foi.
"There will be confusion among the clergy."
The Third Secret which according to Sr Lucia was to be revealed to the world either upon Sr Lucia's death, or no later than 1960, whichever came first. It was reputed to be only two lines or sentences in length. However, on February 8, 1960, the Vatican announced that the Third Secret would never be revealed! Why? No explanation was given and this conflicted with Lucia's wishes. Why all of a sudden would the Vatican ignore the Third Secret and Lucia? Was it afraid of Lucia. Did the Vatican have something to gain by hiding it? Did it have something to lose by revealing the secret?
My own opinion is that the Third Secret says something about certain individuals whodo not belong in the Church and what they would be up to. Such individuals would naturally have a lot to lose by the Third Secret being revealed. This exposure would also jeopardize their future intentions and plans which they had already set in motion, as well as sabotaging and explaining what was already going on. The declaration that there would be a 'Second Vatican Council' for example, was suspicious as Pope John XXIII tried to pull the plug on Vatican II after its first session but mysteriously died! It has often been said that he was poisoned.
WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID ABOUT THE THIRD SECRET
Interview by Fr Schweigel of Sr Lucia on the Third Secret
In September of 1952 Pope Pius XII sent Fr Joseph Schweigel to Portugal to interview Sr Lucy on the Third Secret. When he came back he said the following. "I cannot reveal anything of what I learned at Fatima concerning the Third Secret, but I can say that it has two parts. One concerns the Pope, the other,logically, although I must say nothing, would have to be the continuation of the words, in Portugal the Dogma of the faith will always be preserved." This implies that the Faith would possibly orcertainly be lost elsewhere!
Fatima scholars are in agreement that within the mysterious 'etc', one will find the words of the Virgin Mary which predict a great crisis of faith within the Catholic Church, a loss of Dogma and an apostasy reaching even the highest levels of the Catholic hierarchy. This is confirmed by those who have actually read the Third Secret.
Alfredo Silviani was prefect of the Holy office, and at the time the Holy office was the pre-eminent of the Curia. He was the one who pronounced on Orthodoxy and also had the jurisdiction over the final approval of apparitions. He stated in 1967 that the Third Secret of Fatima is set forth on one sheet of paper.
Cardinal Oddi said that in the Third Secret Our Lady was warning against Apostasy in the Church. He also said "the secret had something to do with the convocation of Vatican II".
Bishop Amor Deamoral of Fatima in 1984 said the Third Secret concerns the faith.
Father Joaquin Alonso who died in 1981 was the official archivist in Fatima for sixteen years and had many conversations with Sr Lucia, here is what he had to say about the Third Secret.
"It is therefore completely probable that the text makes concrete reference to the crisis of faith within the Church and to the negligence of the pastors themselves and the internal struggle in the very bosom of the Church and of grave pastoral negligence of the upper hierarchy".
third secret & vatican ii
Please note : Vatican II is not doctrinal or dogmatic.
Address of Pope Paul VI, Jan 12 1966.
"The teachings of the Council do not constitute a complete, organic system of Catholic doctrine. Doctrine is much more extensive, as everyone knows, and it is not called into question by the Council nor substantively modified."
Ven. Anne de la Foi
"There will be discord within the Catholic Church."
Prophecy of St John Bosco 1862
"There will be an Ecumenical Council in the next century, after which there will be chaos in the Church. Tranquillity will not return until the Pope succeeds in anchoring the boat of Peter between the twin pillars of Eucharistic devotion and devotion to Our Lady. This will come about one year before the end of the Century."
Please note: my own interpretation of the above prophecy of St John Bosco is that when he speaks of 'before the end of the Century' he means Satan's 100 years.
"Are these Fathers planning a revolution?" These were the words of Cardinal Ottaviani during the debate on the Liturgy Constitution of the Second Vatican Council. A revolution was planned long before Vatican II, but the revolution reached critical mass and then exploded throughout the Church under the guise of Vatican II.
According to Anne Muggeridge, Cardinal John Heeran of Westminster reported that when during the rebellious first session of the Council, Pope John XXIII realized that the Papacy had lost control of the process, he attempted to organize a group of Bishops to try to force it to an end. But before the second session of the Council could open, Pope John XXIII died. His last words on his deathbed as reported by Jean Guitton, the only Catholic layman to serve as a peritus at the Council were:"Stop the council, stop the council." (The Desolate City) It has often been alleged that Pope John XXIII was poisoned!
Before the end of Vatican II in February 1965 someone announced to Padre Pio that soon he would celebrate the Mass according to a new rite, in the vernacular, which had been devised by a conciliar liturgical commission. Immediately, even before seeing the text, he wrote to Paul VI to ask him to be dispensed from the liturgical experiment and to be able to (continue to) celebrate the Mass of Pope Pius V.
When Cardinal Bacci came to see him in order to bring the authorization, Padre Pio let a complaint escape in the presence of the Pope's messenger: "For pity sake, end the council (Vatican II) quickly."
Sister Jeanne of the Nativity (1700's)
"One day I heard that the New Constitution (Vatican II) will appear to many other than what it really is. They will bless it as a gift from Heaven, whereas it is in fact sent from Hell!"
third secret about papacy of Paul vi
We know that the third secret makes reference to a Pontificate, or even allegedly a particular Pontificate by name. It is even said that it mentions two years, those being 1960 and 1972, as we can discern from Pope John XXIII's words upon reading the third secret in August 1959, "That does not concern the years of my Pontificate."
Pope Paul VI however, did not say the same as Pope John XXIII, ie Paul VI did not say "That does not concern the years of my Pontificate." So we can safely conclude that the Third Secret must refer specifically to a Pontificate and that it must be about the Pontificate of Paul VI!
Given that Sr Lucia instructed that the third secret was to be revealed no later than 1960 or on Lucia's death, whichever came first, and that Pope John XXIII died in 1963. It therefore indicates that the third secret has to do with the pontificate of Paul VI.
When Pope Paul VI arrived in Fatima in 1967 with Bishop Venancio, there in the car the Bishop told the Holy Father: "We always thought the prophecy of Jacinta referred to Pope Pius XII, but now we know, your Holiness, that it was you!"
JACINTA'S VISION OF A POPE, WAS IT OF POPE PAUL VI
The three seers of Fatima had a vision of a future Pope. It was described by Jacinta Marto as follows:
"I saw (at that time a future pope) the Holy Father in a very large house on his knees before a table, with his hands over his face, crying. In front of this house, there are many people, and some are throwing stones at him, others are cursing him and saying very foul words to him."
In a reported conversation between two of the Fatima children, Jacinta asked Lucia if she could tell others more about it. "Can I say I saw the (a future Pope) Holy Father and all those people?" she asked.
"No! answered Lucia. "Don't you see that makes part of the secret and then it will be discovered?"
please note: the house was most certainly Castel Gandolfo where Pope Paul VI died in 1978! It has been said that the Pope in Jacinta's vision is Paul VI !
lucia and pope paul vi meet in fatima in 1967
On 13 May 1967, after a Mass celebrated in front of the Basilica in Fatima, Portugal. Sr Lucia approached Pope Paul VI and requested. "I want to have a private conversation with you." She repeated this request many times. Sr Lucia must have had an important message for him. But Pope Paul VI refused the request and replied, "See, it is not the moment." Sister Lucia withdrew. Pope Paul VI got up and turned towards the statue of Our Lady of Fatima, trying to place a silver Rosary between her hands. As he could not reach them, he deposited the Rosary at the statue's feet.
The crowd shouted: "Lucia, Lucia, Lucia!" Then Bishop Hnilica led Sr Lucia onto the top of the podium. When the hundreds of thousands of pilgrims saw Sr Lucia near the Pope, they applauded. But TV reporters and hundreds of cameras recorded a stunning event: Sr Lucia was crying. Why?
Please note: this was the 50th anniversary of the Fatima apparition of 13 May 1917.
Did Lucia's sense of urgency happen to have anything to do with the Third Secret of Fatima? Did it have anything to do with the Vatican's declaration in 1960 not to reveal the third secret? The meeting on the 13 May 1967 between Lucia and Pope Paul VI would be their last.
The personal opinion of myself is that Sr Lucia had a personal message for Pope Paul VI from Our Lady or Christ which could not be conveyed by any other means such as by letter as any othermeans would not be guaranteed to get through to Pope Paul VI.
PADRE PIO AND THIRD SECRET OF FATIMA
Around 1960, Gabriele Amorth met padre Pio of Pietrelcina and talked with him about the third secret of Fatima. Padre Pio said: "Satan has been introduced into the bosom of the Church [the physical structure] and he will within a very short time come to rule a false church."
Amorth said that Padre Pio was "really tormented" by one issue, that is, the great apostasy. Padre Pio almost constantly said the Rosary and urged others to say it. He also recommended the prayer, "Oh Jesus, save the elect in the hour of darkness."
And contrary to what some have said, Padre Pio never celebrated the New 'Mass'. Padre Pio died on September 23, 1968; the New 'Mass' wasn't promulgated until April 3, 1969.
PADRE PIO AND THIRD SECRET OF FATIMA
In a recent article on the Secret of Fatima, Steve Skojec, the founder and editor of OnePeterFive, published, to my knowledge, for the first time in the English language words from Rome’s chief exorcist, Father Gabriele Amorth (d. 2016), about Padre Pio and his knowledge of the Third Secret of Fatima. They come from a newly published book written by José María Zavala, entitled The Best Kept Secret of Fatima (El Sécreto Mejor Guardado de Fátima). OnePeterFive‘s contributor, Mr. Andrew Guernsey, was very helpful in finding these quotes. Since Mr. Skojec’s own article is somewhat lengthy, many readers may not have realized the importance of this interview with Father Amorth, which was only to be published after the priest’s death. In the following, I shall quote extensively from Steve’s own post which first speaks about Father Amorth’s own conviction that the specific Consecration of Russia has not yet taken place, and then enters into the larger discussion about Fatima:
It [a piece of the Fatima puzzle] came in the form of an interview with the very famous (and now deceased) Roman exorcist, Fr. Gabriel Amorth, also conducted by José María Zavala. Fr. Amorth personally knew Saint (Padre) Pio for 26 years, and it is from this towering figure of 20th century Catholic sanctity that he claims to have learned the contents of the Third Secret of Fatima.
Fr. Amorth was interviewed by Zavala in 2011, who kept the interview secret until after the exorcist’s death, publishing it for the first time in his book about Fatima. In the interview, Fr. Amorth relates — as he has done elsewhere — that he does not believe the consecration of the world by Pope John Paul II in 1984 was sufficient to satisfy the requirements set forth by Our Lady.
“There was no such consecration then,” he [Father Amorth] says. “I witnessed the act. I was in St. Peter’s Square that Sunday afternoon, very close to the Pope; so close, I could almost touch him.”
Pressed by Zavala as to why he so forcefully believes that the consecration was not done, Fr. Amorth replied: “Very simple: John Paul II wanted to mention Russia expressly, but in the end he did not.”
Zavala pressed the issue with Fr. Amorth, saying that Sister Lucia herself (as mentioned above) had said that Heaven had accepted the consecration. He describes an incredulous reaction from Fr. Amorth. “Lucia said that…?” He asked. Zavala continues:
“Well, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone said it, in the year 2000, hiding behind a letter [escudándose en una carta] from Lucia dated November 1989, in which she stated that Heaven had admitted consecration in spite of one of the most important conditions.
“Have you seen that letter?” He asks, as if conducting a police interrogation in search of evidence.
“Never,” I say flatly.
“I do not think you’ll ever see it, because I’m convinced that Lucia did not write it.”
“How are you so sure of that?”
“Why didn’t Bertone show it when he should have, when he announced the Third Secret of Fatima? A simple photocopy of the manuscript, included in the official dossier of the Vatican, would have been sufficient to dispel any doubt. If the Vatican has always been scrupulous in providing the documentary proof that authenticated the information by Lucia on minor matters, what reason would they have to skimp on the only documentary evidence that, according to Bertone, validated a fact that without doubt was of as much importance as the consecration performed by John Paul II?
“Yes, it’s weird,” I admit.
“You really think Lucia took five years to write that the consecration had been truly accepted? And that Bertone waited no less than sixteen years to announce the validity of something so crucial as the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary?” Father Amorth’s voice sounds like dry leaves.
“It’s all very strange, in truth.” I [Zavala] nod again.
“Moreover,” he adds, “if the consecration of the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary made by Pius XII in 1942 was only partially accepted [because he did not specifically mention Russia – ed], for Jesus said that in view of it the war would only be shortened rather than finished immediately, why would He now change his mind with John Paul II, if Russia was not mentioned on this occasion?”
“It would be an incongruity, yes.”
“I have no doubt that the consecration did not occur on the terms required by the Virgin. But we must not lose sight of what she herself wanted to tell us through Lucia: ‘In the end My Heart Immaculate Heartwill triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me and it will become [come to be], [thereby] granting itself to the world a time of peace’…”
The interview digresses here from the topic of Fatima, but Zavala returns to it again later:
“Forgive me for insisting on the Third Secret of Fatima: Did Padre Pio relate it, then, to the loss of faith within the Church?”
Fr. Gabriele furrows his brow and sticks out his chin. He seems very affected.
“Indeed,” he states, “One day Padre Pio said to me very sorrowfully: ‘You know, Gabriele? It is Satan who has been introduced into the bosom of the Church and within a very short time will come to rule a false Church.’”
“Oh my God! Some kind of Antichrist! When did he prophesy this to you?” I [Zavala] ask.
“It must have been about 1960, since I was already a priest then.”
“Was that why John XXIII had such a panic about publishing the Third Secret of Fatima, so that the people wouldn’t think that he was the anti-pope or whatever it was …?”
A slight but knowing smile curls the lips of Father Amorth.
“Did Padre Pio say anything else to you about future catastrophes: earthquakes, floods, wars, epidemics, hunger …? Did he allude to the same plagues prophesied in the Holy Scriptures?” [asks Mr. Zavala]
“Nothing of the sort mattered to him, however terrifying they proved to be, except for the great apostasy within the Church. This was the issue that really tormented him and for which he prayed and offered a great part of his suffering, crucified out of love.” [says Fr. Amorth]
“The Third Secret of Fatima?”
“Is there any way to avoid something so terrible, Fr. Gabriele?”
“There is hope, but it’s useless if it’s not accompanied by works. Let us begin by consecrating Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, let us recite the Holy Rosary, let us all do prayer and penance …” [emphasis added]
Thus ends Steve Skojec’s own presentation of certain passages of the new Zavala book on Fatima.
Father Amorth is a witness here to what Padre Pio – whom he first met when he himself was a seventeen-year-old young man – told him directly and personally. Father Amorth states in that same interview that Padre Pio even let him sometimes read his own spiritual diary.
As we reported earlier, Father Amorth had also already stated during his lifetime that he did not believe that the Consecration of Russia has taken place (a statement which was just confirmed by Cardinal Paul Josef Cordes). In December of 2015, Father Amorth had said:
The Consecration has not yet been made. I was there on March 25  in St. Peter’s Square, I was in the front row, practically within touching distance of the Holy Father. [Pope] John Paul II wanted to consecrate Russia, but his entourage did not, fearing that the Orthodox would be antagonized, and they almost thwarted him. Therefore, when His Holiness consecrated the world on his knees, he added a sentence not included in the distributed version that instead said to consecrate “especially those nations of which you yourself have asked for their consecration.” So, indirectly, this included Russia. However, a specific consecration has not yet been made. You can always do it. Indeed, it will certainly be done…
As with other spiritual sons of Padre Pio – Dr. Ingo Dollinger and Father Luigi Villa, for example – it seems that Padre Pio is still effectively with us, working through those whom he met and guided while still on earth. It seems to be part of his legacy to help us in these difficult times. Let us then pray to Padre Pio of Pietrelcina and ask for his intercession!
padre pio fights masonic infiltration
Father Luigi Villa was given an assignment by Padre Pio, who told Fr Villa that our Lord had designs on him (Villa ) and had chosen him to be educated and trained to fight Freemasonry within the Church,"You must dedicate your entire life to defend the Church of Christ from the work of Freemasonry and Ecclesiastical Masonry." The mission was approved by Pope Pius XII who gave a Papal Mandate for his work.
Padre Pio spelled out this task in three meetings during the last fifteen years of the Saints life. After a second meeting (1963), Padre Pio said to him: "Be brave, now . . . for the Church has already been invaded by Freemasonry!" Padre Pio also told Fr Villa (possibly during the third meeting) : "Freemasonry has already made it into the loafers of the Pope! " ( this was during the Pontificate of Pope Paul VI.
sr lucia's concern as 1972 approached
Sister Lucy was preoccupied with one theme as the predicted year of 1972 approached, the year mentioned in the Third Secret and also in Mother Godinho’s letter to Pope Pius XII. Sister Lucy constantly referred to the theme of diabolical disorientation, especially within the Catholic hierarchy.
April 4, 1970:
"...May your apostolate, like that of all our missionary brothers and sisters, be for souls the light of Faith which guides them on the way of Truth, Hope and Love! This light which the Lord speaks to us about in His Gospel: 'You are the light of the world, and the salt of the earth.' It is necessary, for this purpose, not to be led by the doctrines of disoriented disputants...The campaign is diabolical. We must stand up to it, without placing ourselves in conflict. We must tell souls that, now more than ever, we must pray for us and for those who are against us! We must recite the Rosary every day. This is the prayer which Our Lady recommended the most, as if to arm us in advance, foreseeing these days of diabolical campaign! The devil knows that we shall save ourselves through prayer. ..." (Sister Lucy, to a priest-nephew)
April 12, 1970:
"People must recite the Rosary every day. Our Lady repeated this in all her apparitions, as if to arm us in advance against these times of diabolical disorientation, so that we would not let ourselves be fooled by false doctrines, and that through prayer, the elevation of our soul to God would not be diminished.... This is a diabolical disorientation invading the world and misleading souls! It is necessary to stand up to it..." (Sister Lucy, to her friend Dona Maria Teresa da Cunha)
September 16, 1970:
Sister Lucy wrote to a friend in religion, Mother Martins, who had been her companion at Tuy, in the novitiate of the Dorothean Sisters. She had just been sorely tried by illness: "...I too, was not feeling very well in my heart, my eyes, etc.; but it is necessary to the Passion of Christ; it is necessary that His members be one with Him, through physical pain and through moral anguish.
Poor Lord, He has saved us with so much love and He is so little understood! So little loved! so badly deserved! It is painful to see such a great disorientation and in so many persons who occupy places of responsibility...!
For our part we must, as far as is possible for us, try to make reparation through an ever more intimate union with the Lord; and identify ourselves with Him that He may be in us the Light of the world plunged in the darkness of error, immorality and pride. It pains me to see what you tell me, now that that is going on over here...! It is because the devil has succeeded in infiltrating evil under the cover of good, and the blind are beginning to guide others, as the Lord tells us in His Gospel, and souls are letting themselves be deceived...This is why the devil has waged such a war against [the Rosary]! And the worst is that he has succeeded in leading into error and deceiving souls having a heavy responsibility through the place which they occupy...! They are blind men guiding other blind men..."
November 26, 1970:
"...The decadence which exists in the world is without doubt the consequence of the lack of the spirit of prayer. Foreseeing this disorientation, the Blessed Virgin recommended recitation of the Rosary with such insistence, and since the Rosary is, after the holy Eucharistic liturgy, the prayer most apt for preserving faith in souls, the devil has unchained his struggle against it.
Unfortunately, we see the disasters he has caused. ...We must defend souls against the errors which can make them stray from the good road.... We cannot and we must not stop ourselves, nor allow, as Our Lord says, the children of Darkness to be wiser than the children of Light... The Rosary is the most powerful weapon for defending ourselves on the field of battle." (Sister Lucy, to Don Umberto Pasquale, an Italian Salesian devoted to the cause of Fatima for a very long time)
April 13, 1971:
"I see by your letter that you are preoccupied by the disorientation of our time. It is indeed sad that so many persons let themselves be dominated by the diabolical wave sweeping over the world, and that they are blinded to the point of being incapable of seeing error! ..." (Sister Lucy, to her Salesian nephew, Father Jose Valinho)
"Thus the little pamphlets (referring to a text on the Rosary composed by Sister Lucy) will remain with souls, as an echo of Our Lady's voice, to remind them of the insistence with which She recommended the prayer of the Rosary to us, so many times. It is because She already knew that there had to come these times, during which the devil and his supporters would fight so much against this prayer, to lead souls away from God. And without God, who shall be saved?! For this reason we must do everything in our power to lead souls back to God." (Sister Lucy, to Mother Martins)
archbishop gagnon's mission from pope vi
"Crime butchers innocence to seize a throne, and innocence struggles against it with all its might to fight the effects of crime".
Pope Paul VI had asked Archbishop Gagnon to head an investigation concerning the infiltration of the Catholic Church by powerful enemies. Archbishop Gagnon accepted this unpleasant task and compiled a long dossier, rich in worrisome facts. When the work was completed, he requested an audience with Pope Paul VI in order to deliver personally the manuscript to the Pontiff. This request for a meeting was denied, the Pope sent word that the document should be placed in the offices of the Congregation for the Clergy, specifically in a safe with a double lock.
This was done but the very next day the safe deposit box was broken and the manuscript mysteriously disappeared. The usual policy of the Vatican is to make sure that news of such incidents never see the light of day. Nevertheless, this theft was reported even in L'osservatore Romano, (perhaps under pressure as it had been reported in the secular press). Archbishop Gignon, of course, had a copy, and once again asked the Pope for a private audience. Once again his request was denied. He then decided to leave Rome and return to Canada. Later he was called back to Rome by Pope John Paul II and made a Cardinal."
is the third secret in catholic prophecy?
Blessed Joachim (died 1202)
"Towards the end of the world Antichrist will overthrow the Pope and usurp his See."
Prophecy of La Salette by Melanie Malhieu (Calvat)
"Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the AntiChrist."
Prophecy of Ann Catherine Emmerich
"I also saw the relationship between the two Popes . . . I saw how baleful (evil) would be the consequences of the false church. I saw it increase in size; heretics of every kind came into the city (of Rome) . . . Once more I saw the Church of Peter was undermined by a plan evolved by the secret sect (Masonry) while storms were damaging it."
"It will come when the Church authorities issue directives to promote a new cult, when Priests are forbidden to celebrate in any other, when the higher positions in the Church are given to perjurers and hypocrites, when only the renegades are admitted to occupy those positions."
please note: the Oba prophecy I believe indicates when the Third Secret will happen. 'It will come' to me means the Pontificate during which the Third Secret will occur will be the one in which the 'New Mass' replaces the Latin Mass. The New Mass was introduced during the Pontificate of Pope Paul VI, the Third Secret, therefore, occurred during the reign of Pope Paul VI.
has the third secret been revealed by heaven by other means?
I have noticed that in certain messages of certain Marian apparitions such as Our Lady in Garabandal, Our Lady in Akita. A remark by Padre Pio, remarks by Pope Paul VI and also revelations in Catholic prophecy and details revealed during exorcisms in Austria during the 1970's certain claims or statements which have a common thread and which might be what the Third Secret partly consists of or indicates.
It is also significant that all such similar claims were made after 1960! The year 1960 being of course, the very year of which according to Lucia of Fatima, was to be the year no later than which the Third Secret was to be revealed!
Such statements were all made during the Pontificate of Pope Paul VI!
dothe following reveal what the third secret is?
Could it be, that despite those in the Vatican succeeded in suppressing Lucia of Fatima and the third secret, that Heaven took it upon itself to reveal the third secret by other means? All the following are from apparitions of Our Lady except those statements of Padre Pio, Pope Paul VI and Cardinal Ratzinger.
"Satan rules even in the highest positions and determines the direction of things. He will succeed in worming his way even into the highest summit of the Church . . . "
"But this will be a time of great trial for the Church. Cardinals will oppose Cardinals. Bishops will oppose Bishops, Satan will walk in their ranks. In Rome, there will be great changes. What is rotten will fall and what will fall will never rise again. Darkness will envelope the Church and the world will be thrown into a panic."
The quote above is from a German periodical published in 1963, Neus Europa, and received unofficial approbation in the 1960's by several Church officials who had read the original 3rd Secret text hand written by Sr Lucia. Among these was Cardinal Ottovani.
Padre Pio to Fr Luigi Villa, 1963. "Freemasonry has already made it into the loafers of the Pope!"
Garabandal. June 18, 1965. "Many Cardinals, many Bishops and many Priests are on the road to perdition and are taking many souls with them."
Pope Paul VI. June 29, 1972.Speaking on the ninth anniversary of his coronation. "From some fissure the smoke of Satan has entered God's Church."
Akita. October 13, 1973. "The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the church in such a way that one will see Cardinals opposing Cardinals, and Bishops against other Bishops. (56th anniversary of final Fatima apparition)
Pope Paul VI. October 13, 1977: "The tail of the devil is functioning in the disintegration of the Catholic world. The darkness of Satan has entered and spread throughout the Catholic Church even to its summit. Apostasy, the loss of the Faith, is spreading throughout the world and into the highest levels within the Church." (60th anniversaryof final Fatima apparition)
akita and third secret
Message of October 13, 1973, the 56th anniversary of final visions and miracle of Fatima
"As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity . . . the good as well as the bad, sparing neither Priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the sign (is this the permanent sign which sometime after the Garabandal Warning is to be left at Garabandal miracle?) left by my Son. Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the Bishops and the Priests.
"The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see Cardinals opposing Cardinals, and Bishops against other Bishops. The Priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres (other Priests). Churches and Altars will be sacked. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many Priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord."
warnings from the beyond i, ii, iii, 1975 to 1978
SPEAK OF PAUL VI AND THE IMPOSTER
These are details and revelations given by demons during a series of exorcisms performed from August 14, 1975 to March 30, 1978. The demons were Akabor, Allida, Judas Iscariot (a human demon), Veroba and Beelzebub. The excerpts confirm the existence of the imposter pope and also mention other subjects. Speaking through the possessed woman (Anneliese Michel, d1976, incorrupt), the demons were forced to tell the truth by Our Lady under the Solemn Church exorcism, which was witnessed by the following eight Priests. Abbot Albert L'Arx, Niederbuchorten. Abbot Arnold Elig, Ramiswil. Abbot Ernest Fischer, Gossau. Rev. Father Pius Gervasi, O.S.B. Disentis. Abbot Karl Holdener, Ried. Rev.Father Gregoire Meyer, Trimbach. Rev. Father Robert Rinderere, C.P.P.S., Auw. Abbot Louis Vellard, Cerneux-Pequignot.
Details of Pope Paul's VI double
Exorcism of January 16, 1976, disclosing the existence of a double of Pope Paul VI in the Vatican:
Demon Veroba: "You must say, in the name of God, that there is a double in Rome. He has a face which is a little different from that of the true Pope; his eyes are not so deep-set as the latter's. The true Pope is feeble and sickly. His eyes are blue, those of the false one are green. The false pope has studied theology. He is well organized. He is a good actor. He is not the only guilty one, the others, who set him up, carry the greatest responsibility . . . "
Exorcism of April 25, 1977
Details on Pope Paul's VI knowledge of His Cardinals
Exorcist: "Is the Pope informed about the Cardinals? Has he investigated them? In the name of the Blessed Virgin Mother of God, tell us the truth!"
Beelzebub: "He went into it a long time ago; he knows everything, everything, but he can do nothing. As we have said, his hands and feet are tied. He can do nothing, he receives injections. The doctor---listen carefully---who treats the Pope, is manipulated in such a way that the Pope receives certain poisons which are harmful to his head and to his mind. But in spite of that, he knows perfectly well what is good."
Demon Akabor: The Pope is tormented by his Cardinals, his own Cardinals . . . he is surrounded by wolves.
Exorcist: Tell the truth, in the name . . . !
Demon Akabor: If that weren't so, he would be able to speak out more. He is , as it were, paralyzed. He can no longer do very much; believe me, you will feel in your hearts what must be done. But, whatever else, in no way must you abandon the smallest scrap of the old faith. I want to say, I must say that the Second Vatican Council was not very good. It was in part, the work of Hell!
Title: 'The Mass'. Date August 14th, 1975.
Exorcist=. A= Demon.
A: There were a few small things, which needed to be changed, but most of it - no. Believe me! In the liturgy, there was practically nothing to be changed. Even the Gospel reading should be in the vernacular; it would be better if the Holy Mass was said in Latin.
The reason can be seen if you just look at the Consecration, only the Consecration, but that is typical. At the Consecration, one uses the words: "This is My Body which will be given up for you", followed by:"This is My Blood, which will be shed for you and for a great number". That is what Jesus said.
E: It is not correct to say "for all"? Tell the truth, in the name . . . you have no right to lie.
A: It certainly isn't. The translations have not been completely accurate, and this is particularly the case with "for all". It should not, and cannot be "for all" - it should be "for a great number". When the text is not correct, so the abundance of graces diminishes; the channel of graces still flows, but only sparsely. And the Consecration is accompanied by so many graces when the Priest does things correctly, according to the old Tradition, and according to the will of God. "For you and for a great number" must be said, just as Christ himself said it.
E: But didn't Christ shed His Blood for all? Tell the truth in the name . . . !
A: No, He would have liked to shed it for all, but, in fact, it did not flow for all.
E: Because many have rejected it? Tell the truth . . . !
A: Exactly; in this way it did not flow for all, for it did not flow for us in Hell.
E: Tell the truth, in the name . . . !
A: The new order of the Mass - The Bishops have changed the Tridentine Mass - the new Mass is absolutely not as They up there want it (he points upward). The point will soon be reached when the whole Mass will no longer be valid.
E: How is the Tridentine Mass, the Old Mass, which was prescribed by Pope St. Pius V? Tell the truth in the name . . . and you have no right to lie!
A: It is the best in existence; it is in the standard, the true, the good Mass (he groans).
E: Akabor, tell the truth, in the name of and by the order of, the Blessed Virgin! We order you to say everything she charges you to say!
A: I said all that against my will, but I was made to! She up there (he points upward) forced me (he mutters).
August 14, 1975
A: Many Priests make reference to obedience. But Now, in these times, it is not necessary to obey modernist Bishops. It is now the times of which Christ spoke : " There will rise up many false Christs and false prophets". Those (modernist Bishops) are the false prophets. But one ought not - nor one has the right - to believe them, because they . . . because they . . . have accepted so many novelties. We are in them; we from down there (he points downwards) have stirred them up. Prior to that, we deliberated a great deal as to how to destroy the Catholic
Warnings from the beyond part iii on Pope Paul VI
Exorcism of May 1, 1978 - Feast of Saint Joseph
Avowal of the angelic demon, Allida:
“All would be completely destroyed - in the Vatican - if it were not for the presence of the true Pope. Yes! If the Pope were not praying, on his knees, day and night, and sending his pleas up to the Lord, by now the Church would have been wrecked - the whole Church would have reached the bottom. But this Holy Father, with his great sanctity, has been installed and predestined so that the Church does not sink.
Your Church would not be The Church any more if Pope Paul VI had not existed. But Pope Paul VI has been predestined for all eternity in the Plan of God, for this age: so that that Church would not be submerged and that one man, the Pope, would know how to carry it. Because his sufferings and his crosses allow him to carry it still. Every day he is living a martyrdom, a great martyrdom. The Pope bears immense sorrows, which no one else among those who are in the Vatican, would be capable of bearing.
And foul mouths have the temerity to attack this very Holy Father! For it is not the Pope who has set the Church in the wrong direction, but the double and his helpers. These wretches do not realize that the sufferings which they have been responsible for in the soul of the Pope, have been the means by which they have donned the boots which are leading them to Hell and condemning them.
It is we (demons - by order of the Most Holy Trinity) who are making known what the Gospel has already repeated several times ... that Hell is a terrible thing. Neither the Gospel, nor all the descriptions which could be given to you, would be able to convey to you the appalling thing which is Hell. And we are the ones who are suggesting to everybody, priests or lay people, that Hell does not exist.”
third secret and 'new mass'
Anne Catherine Emmerich (d 1824) Prophecy made in 1820
"I saw again the new and odd-looking Church which they were trying to build. Then my guide Jesus said : "This is Babel ". [the Mass in many languages].
The following is from a Fatima Crusader interview with Father Paul Kramer
Q: What did Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani say about the Third Secret
Father Kramer: Cardinal Ottaviani was prefect of the Holy Office, and at the same time, the Holy Office was the pre-eminent discalcery of The Roman Curia. He was the one, who pronounced on Orthodoxy. Also he had the jurisdiction over the final approval or disapproval of apparitions. He stated in an address he gave in 1967 at the Antonianum, that the Third Secret of Fatima is set forth on one sheet of paper.
Q: Who is Cardinal Ciappi and what did he say about the Third Secret?
Father Kramer: Cardinal Mario Luigi Ciappi was a Dominican Priest who had been made a Cardinal by Pope Paul VI. He was Papal Theologian under Paul VI, John I and early in the reign of Pope John Paul II. Cardinal Ciappi stated in his letter to Professor Baumgarter that in the Third Secret of Fatima it is revealed, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top.
Q: Could Cardinal Ciappi be telling the truth? Isn't 'apostasy' too strong a word?
Father Kramer: I know there are some people who find some difficulty with the idea that there could be an apostasy, or a great apostasy in the Church. Some people do seem to think that the word is a little strong.
However, it was not too strong for St Paul to use the term, because he was the one who foretold that before the coming of the man of sin, the Anti-Christ, there would be this great falling away, a great apostasy.
So it is not surprising that Our Lady would warn about this apostasy in the Church, because this is already a teaching enshrined in sacred Scripture by the great Apostle himself, St Paul.
Q: How do you reply to those who say that Our lady would never make such a claim that the Church itself, the spotless bride of Christ, would enter a period of Apostasy?
Fr Kramer: To those who find difficulty with the idea that the Church, the Bride of Christ, could ever enter into a period of apostasy, I respond that Our Lord Jesus Christ said, "Behold, I have told you all of these things in advance." How can we question the word of God? The suffering that the church, as the Mystical body of Christ, must undergo is described prophetically, for example, in the Book of Lamentations. It is described again prophetically in the book of the Prophet Daniel, and in the Apocalypse, where we see there will be a great apostasy and a great persecution of the remnant of faithful; and that God will preserve them in their faith, so that the elect will be preserved.
Q: Do you see a connection between the Third Secret of Fatima and the New Mass?
Fr Kramer: Sister Lucia of Fatima, in reference to the message of Fatima, said that there would take place a diabolical disorientation in the Church. And there is nothing that could do more to bring that about than a Liturgical revolution
that would enshrine alien principles into a seemingly Catholic Liturgy.
As a matter of fact there is more substance to the question of a diabolical disorientation. I am referring to the part of the Third Secret of Fatima that has not been revealed. I know this to be a fact because I have personally spoken with a German theologian and a seminary rector who is a long time close friend of Pope Benedict.
When Pope Benedict was still Cardinal Ratzinger, around 1990 he revealed to his friend that in the Third Secret of Fatima Our Lady warns not to change the Liturgy. Now, of course, with the New Mass of Pope Paul VI, that is exactly what was done. Elements of Protestantism, both in the symbolism, and in the wording of the Liturgy were brought into and mixed into a Catholic framework to the extent that the makers of the New Rite flatly stated that this is no longer the Roman Rite, it is a new creation.Father Joseph Galineau was the right-hand man of Archbishop Annibale Bugnini, who is the architect of the New Rite of Mass. Both Father Joseph Galineau and Archbishop Bugini plainly stated that the Novus Ordo Mass is a new creation, that the old rite of Mass, the Roman Rite, has been destroyed. Pope Paul announced in November of 1969 that This/his would be a new rite of Mass.
So there is no question about the new liturgy, the Novus Ordu Liturgy, being somehow a revision and a continuation of The Roman Rite. No. It is a break with catholic Liturgical tradition.
So Our Lady of Fatima warned in the Third Secret not to make specifically this kind of change in the liturgy. Yet Pope Paul VI went forward and made those changes anyway.
Our Lady also warned that there would be an evil council in the Church that would cause great scandal. And of course
it was the document from Vatican II, the Constitution on the Liturgy, which gave the impetus for Pope Paul VI to reform the Liturgy in such a disastrous manner that has caused such a loss of Faith and confusion in the Church.
So we have Cardinal Ratzinger himself stating to a close personal friend that these warnings were given by Our Lady in The Third Secret of Fatima not to change the Mass in precisely the manner that Pope Paul VI changed the Mass.
Now after this took place, the German theologian who I am referring to went back to the Country in South America where he was rector of a seminary and he explained to a young Priest what Cardinal Ratzinger had related to him. And precisely when he related that Our Lady warned against changing the Mass and there would be an evil Council in the Church, the both of them saw a plume of smoke coming up from the floor. Now it was a marble floor, this could not be anything of a natural phenomenon. Both the young Priest and the old German rector were so impressed, they drew a dossier and sent it to Cardinal Ratzinger.
Then on 26, 2000, Cardinal Ratzinger published for the world the document (on the Third Secret) containing the vision of a "Bishop in white", claiming that the entire secret is set forth in this document. Yet it can only be understood that way if we say that he is using a mental reservation; that what is set forth by Our Lady in her words is already implicitly contained symbolically in the vision.
The elderly German Priest, Ratzinger's long-time personal friend, took note of the fact that when this vision of the Third Secret was published it did not contain those things, those elements of the Third Secret that Cardinal Ratzinger had revealed nearly ten years earlier. The German Priest, Fr Dollinger, told me that this question was burning in his mind on the day he concelebrated with Cardinal Ratzinger. Fr Dollinger said to me "I confronted Cardinal Ratzinger to his face." And of course he asked Cardinal Ratzinger, "how can this be the entire secret? Remember what you told me before?"
Cardinal Ratzinger was cornered. He Didn't know what to say and so he blurted out to his friend in German, "Wirklich gebt dans der etwas" which means "Really there is something more there," meaning there is something more in the Third Secret. The Cardinal stated this quite plainly.
Q:This is an amazing story. Is Fr Dillinger a credible witness?
Father Kramer: I can say this much, we're talking about an elderly Priest, a long-time personal friend of Pope Benedict, a man who was a long-time personal acquaintance of St Pio of Pietrelcina. In fact, he told me he had gone to confession to Padre Pio 58 times!
pope john paul i
Sister Lucia of Fatima met Cardinal Albini Luciani in Fatima on 11 July, 1977. Why? Did she have a message for him from Our Lady of some potential danger he might be in? Did she know from Jesus what the results of the next Papal election would be?
She must have known because when Cardinal Luciani met Sr Lucia in 1977, she referred to him as "Holy Father"! This greeting shocked the humble Cardinal.
In 1978, a few months before the Papal election, they met again, but in circumstances which were quite secretive. The more discerning reader will realize that it must have been serious and urgent for Lucia to meet Cardinal Luciani in Venice, for to leave her convent would have required special permission from her Abbess as Lucia was confined to a convent for much of her life.
Given that Sr Lucia knew the Third Secret of Fatima, it could be argued that something in the Third secret was about or would affect Cardinal Luciani when he would become Pope and that Sr Lucia was given permission by Heaven to reveal the Third Secret to the Cardinal!
Edouardo Luciani (,died 2008) brother of Pope JP I, speaking in 1993 made the following startling statement:
What people are not aware of is that a few months before he (Cardinal Albini) became Pope, Lucia of Fatima quite unexpectedly visited his office in Venice. She requested a meeting with Albini and they spoke for a while in private. After the meeting he (Albini) looked upset. Any time afterwards I spoke to him about his second meeting with Sr Lucia he gave no reply, but he looked troubled or worried as if something bad was on his mind. When Pope Paul VI died a few months later he went to Rome for the Papal election. When he became Pope we felt we would have a long Papacy but it was only to last one month. Back then I did not know what was happening . . . but now I can see things more clearly!"
When he was asked by Cardinal Jean-Marie Villot if he accepted his election, Luciani replied "May God forgive you for what you have done", but Luciani accepted being elected and became Pope John Paul I. After his election, when Cardinal Sin paid homage, the new Pope said: "You were a prophet, but my reign will be a short one!"
"In my family almost no-one believes it was a heart attack that killed my uncle. He never had heart trouble or any illness of that kind." (San Juan Star, Oct 3, 1978)
John Paul's brother Edoardo, in Australia on a trade mission, reported that the Pope had been given a clean bill of health after a medical examination three weeks before he died. He was frail in health as an infant and as a young priest, but there were no reports of heart trouble. (San Juan Star, Oct 9, 1978)
A 1975 ruling from the Vatican ordered that no autopsy could be performed on a Pope. How convenient. What would anyone in the Vatican have to fear from an autopsy? There is a best selling book by David Yallup that also alledges that Pope John Paul I was murdered. It is 'In God's name: An investigation into the Murder of Pope John Paul I
Election of Pope JOHN PAUL II
After the death of Pope John Paul I, who reigned for only 33 days, another conclave was called. In Tadc Szulc's biography of Pope John Paul II. Szulc tells the story of Cardinal Krol from Philadelphia and how a Cardinal Wojtila was elected Pope. Cardinal Krol said, "We as Cardinals were not sure who in the Italian contingent was a member of the P2 Lodge (Masonic Lodge in Rome) so we voted in continental blocks against all Italians." So during the conclave & his election a Mason was nearly elected Pope, but Cardinal Wojtila won instead because no one was really sure which Italians were Masons among the curia, becoming the firstnon Italian Pope in 455 years!
cardinal ratzinger on the third secret
Only months after Bishop Ito approved the Akita apparitions, Cardinal Ratzinger was interviewed on November 11th, 1984 by Jesus magazine (titled "Here is Why the Faith is in Crisis"), published to millions in Italy, Cardinal Ratzinger acknowledged that he had read the Third Secret and that it speaks of "the dangers threatening the Faith and the life of the Christian and therefore the world, and also the importance of the last times."
Cardinal Ratzinger said that the Third Secret had been suppressed since 1960 "to avoid confusing religious prophecy with sensationalism."
He also said, "but the things contained in this Third Secret correspond to what is announced in Scripture and are confirmed in other Marian apparitions . . "
Howard Dee stated that "Cardinal Ratzinger personally confirmed to me that these two messages, of Fatima and Akita, are essentially the same."
Therefore, when Cardinal Ratzinger mentioned in his interview that the Third Secret corresponds to "other Marian apparitions", this reference includes the Akita apparitions. But in a subsequent publication of the same interview in the famous 'Ratzinger Report', this language was mysteriously deleted. Apparently, Cardinal Ratzinger had said too much!
How are the Third Secret and the Akita apparitions the same? Remember that Cardinal Ratzinger had received a dossier of information on the Akita apparitions prior to his interview with Jesus magazine, so this information was fresh in his mind. The following line from the Akita apparitions is key: "The work of the Devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see Cardinals opposing Cardinals, Bishops against Bishop"
pope paul vi double, the imposter pope
Prophecy of Ann Catherine Emmerich
"I also saw the relationship between the two Popes . . . I saw how baleful (evil) would be the consequences of the false church. I saw it increase in size; heretics of every kind came into the city (of Rome) . . . Once more I saw the Church of Peter was undermined by a plan evolved by the secret sect (Masonry) while storms were damaging it."
One of the most astounding allegations made about the Vatican during the 1970s was that evil persons entered into the highest realms of the hierarchy and took over the Vatican and Papacy beginning in the year 1972. What happened could be described as a coup d'état of the Papacy. There was also an 'imposter pope' who was an actor and who substituted Pope Paul VI in public appearances beginning in 1972 or 1973. The actor had plastic surgery to make him resemble Paul VI, but there remained certain discernable physical differences between them. For example, the 'imposter pope' had green eyes but Pope Paul VI eyes were blue! There is very much evidence to prove the existence of the 'imposter pope' such as photographs, voice recordings, testimonials of eyewitnesses who were pilgrims, etc. It was common knowledge even amongst Romans that there was a papal double! There were also peculiar u-turns made on decisions and policies which were declared by the 'Vatican', if it was apt to describe it as being the Vatican.
The 'imposter-pope' did not of course become that of his own accord, but was placed there and controlled by three Cardinals. They were Cardinal Villot, Cardinal Casaroli, and Cardinal Benelli. Pope Paul VI consequently became a prisoner of them in the Vatican. It should be remembered that on 29 of June, 1972, Paul VI announced "From some fissure the smoke of Satan has entered into the temple God." Pope Paul VI must have become suspicious of those around him. It did not take long before people began to comprehend what he meant!
In the beginning of 1966 Conchita of Garabandal and her mother met Pope Paul VI in Rome. In 1975 Jacinta (of Garabandal) went to Rome and met Bishops and Cardinals, but did not meet Pope Paul VI? If not, then why not?
Sr Lucia of Fatima never met Pope Paul VI again after they met in Fatima on the 13 May 1967. It would naturally have been expected for Pope Paul VI to be in Fatima during the 60th anniversary of the apparitions in 1977. But he was not there! Did something or someone prevent him from being in Fatima in 1977? Did something or someone prevent Pope Paul VI and Lucia from meeting together after they met in May 1967? Remember, Sr Lucia and the Cardinal of Venice Albini Luciani met in Fatima on 11 July 1977 and Pope Paul's VI absence from Fatima could have been explained by Lucia to Cardinal Luciani. (for those not already aware, Cardinal Luciani became Pope John Paul I in 1978)
The mysterious 'Betrayal' of Cardinal Mindszenty in 1974
The story of Cardinal Mindszenty of Hungary is evidence of the usurpation of Pope Paul VI's Pontificate. The Cardinal suffered imprisonment and torture in his home Country of Hungary, defending his flock from and speaking out against Nazism and then the ravages of Communism. He was tortured at the hands of communists lasting 39 consecutive days and nights, consisting of sleep-deprivation and every conceivable outrage. In 1956, as communism tightened its grip on the Church in Hungary, Cardinal Mindszenty was given asylum in the American Embassy in Budapest by President Eisenhower. The Cardinal remained there for fifteen years, unable to leave the building as communist agents awaited outside to assassinate him.
On September 28, 1971, the world heard that Cardinal Mindszenty had arrived in Rome at the invitation of Pope Paul VI. He was received with real joy and tenderness by the Pope. The Holy Father embraced the Cardinal and hung his own pectoral cross around his neck. They both concelebrated Mass and the Holy Father spoke of the Cardinal as "a guest we have awaited with longing . . . a symbol of unshakeable strength rooted in faith and in selfless devotion to the Church."On October 23 1971, Pope Paul VI again concelebrated Mass with Cardinal Mindszenty . Pope Paul gave Mindszenty his own Cardinal's mantle and told him in Latin, "You are and remain Archbishop of Esztergom and Primate of Hungary. Continue working and if you have difficulties, turn trustfully to us!"
The Cardinal returned tohis pastoral tours around the world.
But on February 5 1974, something unbelievable occurred: he received a letter from the 'pope' declaring the See of Esztergom vacant. The Vatican announced to the world that Cardinal Mindszenty had retired. The Vatican had lied to the world in a public statement. In profound sorrow Cardinal Mindszenty had to make clear that he had not abdicated, but had been deposed. His memoirs end with the words: "This is how I arrived at complete and total exile."The Vatican was flooded with protests and the free worlds press attacked the deposition of Cardinal Mindszenty with fury.Exactly what did happen? How could Pope Paul VI have betrayed his promise to Cardinal Mindszenty? Did Pope Paul VI really depose the Cardinal in 1974?
Since 1972, the evils which befell the catholic church include: The introduction of Communion in the hand, the introduction of Eucharistic 'Ministers' .The murder of Pope John Paul I. The bad Cardinal (Cardinal Benelli)who was within five votes of becoming Pope instead of Cardinal Woijtila. The continued concealment of the real Third secret. The June 26, 2000 forgery of the Third Secret. The clergy sex abuse scandal which was to conceal the network of homosexual Priests in the Catholic Church. At least 90% of victims were male! In total some 95% of the perpetrators of sexual abuse towards minors were homosexual."
In March 1990, Cardinal Oddi confirmed the belief of many that in the Third Secret "the Blessed Virgin was alerting us to the apostasy in the Church", and that the date of revelation, 1960, indicates that "the Secret had something to do with the convocation of Vatican II."
Malachi martin & third secret
In 1999, the late Malachi Martin stated on the Art Bell Show that while he was secretary to Cardinal Bea,he was given to read the Secret of Fatima in early 1960, which he described as written on a single piece of paper. He stated that Our Lady's words were very dry and specific and they foretold of a future "Pope" (not the true Pope, but a heretical anti-Pope) who would be completely under the control of the Devil. It is clear then, that the Third Secret of Fatima reveals "the mystery of Iniquity" (2 Thess.2:7), the mystery of the Red Dragon, whose tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven.
cardinal luigi ciappi
Cardinal Luigi Ciappi was personal theological advisor to five popes. He made a stunning disclosure about that part of the Fatima secret that the Vatican had never released. His Eminence, one of the few persons who had seen the complete secret, wrote in a 1995 letter to Professor Baumgater of Salzburg: "In the third secret it predicted, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top."
INFILTRATORS INTO CLERGY